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8 Replies Last post: 05-Oct-2008 21:48 by garyclawson  
Click to view sage's profile Level 1 3 posts since
29-Sep-2008

02-Oct-2008 09:38

Single Learning Platform across an LA - Pros and cons?


I can think of many reasons why a single LP is desirable LA-wide:

  • Easier collaboration between staff - subject/aspect networks Economies of scale in procurement
  • Relative ease of MIS integration
  • No problems of incompatibility between different LPs
  • Easier exchange of data and resources between schools
  • Single pupil login that is geographically agnostic
  • Easier/cheaper to support a single product
  • Support for community cohesion
  • Easier for LA officers to get to grips with one system
  • Pupil/teacher mobility
  • etc

Why, then, do schools still insist on 'going it alone'? Of course I think I know the answer to this one: "The LA's LP doesn't suit us. We like this one better. This one does this better. Ours is 'free'." etc.

So we engage all schools in the writing and production of an output spec prior to procurement in the hopes that it will be an opportunity for them to have their say on the exact features of the LP etc. However, I'm sure some will still go their own way.

Apart from involving them in the development of the output spec and 'selling' it with the bullets above, is there anything else that can be done?

Are you a 'maverick' school that has gone it alone in the face of the LA-wide platform? What was your thinking? What would have persuaded you to adopt the LA platform?

Can a multi-platform model really work? Can it work as well as a single solution?

Sorry for all the questions and any responses will be greatly appreciated.


Click to view AlexJones's profile Level 1 4 posts since
24-Jun-2008

Here in Sheffield BSF will sooner or later force all the secondary schools to use the same Learning Platform (the one provided by the Managed Service Provider).

The LA has been very successful in selling a single LP solution to primaries with 90%+ opting in to a preferred supplier.

Why do secondary schools want to go it alone - fundamentally because they are all so very different to each other - both in terms of school population, facilities, ICT equipment, staff experience and skills, and their maturity with e-learning.

Click to view Maximise's profile Level 2 43 posts since
06-Feb-2008
I can think of several reasons why schools may not want a single LP across an LA!

1. Some schools, mainly Secondary, have had their own LPs for many years and have developed T&L strategies and resources that fit their style.

2. They have invested heavily both in terms of finance and staff effort in their own development of their LP in spite of the lack of support by the LA.

3. Their own LP has been tailored to reflect the identity, culture or ethos of the school.

4. Most fundamentally, however, larger schools require their own servers on campus rather than relying on the slow delivery of LA connectivity.

5. Economies of scale are often inappropriate - should Primaries be subsidising licences for AutoCAD or CorelDRAW for instance.

6. References to MIS handling are not relevant when all leading systems are interoperable and must not create 'lock-ins'.

7. Rather than 'one-size-fits-all' is it not the idea that individual schools should be offering their own specialisms?

8. There are much stronger reasons, both technical and educational, for small clusters of Primaries 'fed' by the facilities of the local Secondary.

Click to view TonyParkin's profile Level 1 5 posts since
18-Jun-2008
There are clearly strong arguments on both sides of this proposition.... but I think one or two aspects make the picture slightly less clear black or white .....
a. In some areas, notably parts of London, more than 40% of students cross LA boundaries during their primary and secondary education (luckily the ubiquity of the LGfL at least mediates this, but still brings into question the LA relevance).
b. As 14-19 and Diplomas become increasingly important much of the online learning support will necessarily be provided cross-sector as well as cross boundary. FE and HE already has different and embedded learning platforms to those in LAs.
c. Numerous schools already use not one but several learning platforms for different purposes. They are not likely to return to a single-state system.
d. For some projects being able to integrate with schools of the same specialism in other LAs is equally as important as integration with schools in the same LA.
Clearly there are a number of strong arguments in favour of cross-LA conformity and standardisation - not the least being for licensing purchase and control. But there are also powerful arguments for other forms of collaboration and integration. Arguing that one or other is the only possible way forward is inevitably going to lead to lots of heat, but little light. A mixed economy will be inevitable - so let's put energy into working out how to achieve that efficiently and effectively combining school-based, LA-based, regionally based and nationally based provision that is integrated to meet the needs of every pupil.
Click to view AdrianMarkwell's profile Level 1 2 posts since
02-Oct-2008
This is a classic question raised many time in industry, especially IT; Early Adopters set the pace utilising innovative solutions - well ahead of the crowd. Some may take the route later defined to be 'correct' (or 'the best') - but many more will go down a route that works, but later not considered optimal and some could end up down a blind alley.

Those that make the right choice start to gather momentum as more organisations follow that route. Those that take the a blind alley will (hopefully) see this early and be able to change direction.

The organisations that fall in the middle ground are those with most to lose. They end up making significant investment over the years - both in hardware terms, and also processes and strategies that work very well in a stand-alone environment.

'Forcing' these organisations to change strategy is VERY EXPENSIVE in monetary, time and cultural terms.

1) Monetary - the financial investment of the past will be 'thrown away'. This is physical infrastructure, software licensing costs and also the costs associated with developing new process/policy documentation. This cost would run into tens of thousands of pounds.
2) Time - the timescales for the changes can be significant; a specification needs to be developed and procurement initiated for the new system
3) Cultural - this is probably the hardest - especially if the Change Management is not handled sensitively. There is a risk of alienating the resources within schools who 'owned' the previous system (it was 'their baby') - and possibly resentment from entire schools if they are 'forced' down a route.

In industry this happens all the time when organisations merge and have to combine processes; however in these cases they have a product/service that they sell and are able to recover the associated financial costs.

In a school, there is no 'selling' of the end product (hopefully!), and no way to generate significant cash benefits from any synergies. Benefits are less tangible and therefore the business case to those who will finance the deal is much harder to make.

My view (for what its worth) is that forcing schools down a route will not be successful. The way to stand any chance to achieve a common system would be from networking and socialising the pros and cons of the systems in an open manner; and when individual schools need an upgrade they can be persuaded to follow a particular route. In these cases there would also be the need for the schools already on the 'best' system to share procedures, processes and design documentation.

Adrian
Click to view TonySheppard's profile Level 1 15 posts since
06-Feb-2008

The issue I have with the view that schools are 'forced' to use a particular platform is that it is nigh on impossible to do so.

From my view and experience I tend to look at a central LA platform (I'll get on to regional later) as a tool. It can be the principle tool of a school or it can be a complimentary one. Those schools who are the early adopters and have developed their curriculum around a particular product and then have something else thrust at them have to accept that this is an additional tool and not shut down the idea of using it at all.

We also have to remember that whichever platform is being used they tend to have similar functionality, but with different administration, different look/feel and a different hierarchy or structure (a number of these are actually imposed by historical methodologies for T&L or Leadership). A lot of early adopters are used to using multiple tools to achieve the combined end and the cynic in me would say that it verges on political as to why some schools do their own thing and not use the additional tool. And that applies from the LA side too ... they want schools to use what they provide so they have a greater element of control.

The Pros and Cons ... where to start.

I'll start with interoperability. We only have a chance of getting interoperability in place if there is significant pressure to make it work. This pressure does not come from individual schools (unless they have a lot of political or educational weight behind them) but from LAs and regional groups. These groups may originate from the RBC, they may originate from other areas (SSAT, Becta, Faith Schools, BSF) but it is collective will and influence that forces the change identified by those early adopters. Early adopters have to work with these groups to help other schools, not against them. However, without these schools and visionaries we don't have a base to move from.

Collaboration. Many schools will only collaborate on their terms unless forced to do otherwise. If you have an LA / Regional platform then it has to be flexible and open enough for schools to do this, but with an element of compromise on both sides. Collaboration only works if there is a reason to do so, and more work needs to be done at school, LA and regional level to identify areas that require collaboration. Without wanting to do any finger pointing (but will do anyway) it seems silly that institutes like NCSL do not make more use of LA or regional platforms. I know many groups already have their own solution but very few look to use LA / Regional solutions to compliment what is going on. An area for improvement if you ask me.

T&L ... anyone fancy opening a can of worms? Many schools have particular styles or an ethos that fits in with a particular way of working with students. These often take time to develop and the introduction of yet another element can be viewed as risky. Unfortunately the view of having too many things to use tends to be an adult view. Students will, quite often, make use of anything and everything that is out there. The days of walled gardens is gone as students have little reason to use a limited toolset provided by an educational platform. The key thing is to educate learners when it is appropriate to use these different tools. If the school is not using an LA provided platform they are restricting some of the tools available. I can understand why, but effort is needed on both sides to make it available and usable (a key thing ... a platform is just a tool ... you need a reason to use it!)

Communication. Whatever platform you use, whether as a school or an LA, you need to remember that one of the principle functions is communication. This brings up the issue of multiple communication methods. A single platform only works if there are agreed methods of communication and they are easy to follow, easy to use and communicate useful (that word again) information. If it can pull / push information to other platforms then you are again make life easier for collaboration too.

Best value ... you only get best value if there is a large uptake of the platform. There is little point a regional / LA platform being purchased and saving 50% on the price if only 40% of schools use it. Unfortunately it is nigh on impossible to make the investment and then have a mass roll out and expect everyone to use it immediately. A phased approach may fit into our needs better, but it may not fit into a best value financial model ... until you change the model not just to be about cheapest.

Finally, it doesn't matter what is chosen now, there is always something better around the corner. We have to learn to make a choice, go with it and accept that there will be times when we are slightly behind the curve. To make sure people do not get far behind the times we have to start planning as soon as a platform is there. In a school this is slightly simpler to do, but in a large platform there are more dependencies and wholesale change / improvements becomes more difficult. This is where the early adopters come in again ... we have to rely on them to help us making the right choices.

Click to view garyclawson's profile Level 2 36 posts since
02-Jun-2008


I think that learning platforms will always be divided into individual schools, LAs, groups of schools, sometimes whole regions. Whatever the groupings there will always be many different platforms.

We're implementing a project (publicly funded) that gathers together every bit of digital resource created by LAs, CLCs, and schools and placing them into one digital resource depository. From there you simply load into or take from the repository any resources that are shareable under creative commons licence. So although plaforms may be grouped in different sizes, the 'common currency' - curriculum focused digital resources - are shared. The Learning Platform is licenced and specific to the body that brought it but the resources are shared and common to all teachers and learners.

It's called the National Digital Resource Bank and should be up and running in January with more than 100 LAs sharing resources.