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Click to view marshal's profile Level 2 20 posts since
10-Dec-2007

18-Jul-2008 13:23

What tools should teachers use for creating materials?


This is a very open sort of question - but it's one that probably needs considering. Let's assume that there will be some digital assets produced by teachers - along the lines of the sort of stuff in the Times Ed swappy thing - will we be suggesting teachers get down with SCORM for maximum swappability (possibly a good idea also in case their own school changes it's VLE or they want to take stuff to their next school) but possibly restricted creativity, or should they stick to the proprietary tools provided with each VLE? OR, is there something missing from the toolbox that we need to provide?

Marshal

Click to view TonySheppard's profile Level 1 15 posts since
06-Feb-2008

I suppose it depends on whether you want to view what is created as a learning object or a resource.

A learning object would be an asset which can be assigned to a student / students and involves feedback based on the input to the asset. This can then be taken on to use pathways (depending on the input the asset responds differently) and at theend of the activity using the asset there is feedback for both staff and student.

A resource may simply be a simple object such as a video, a picture, an audio file or a flat document (PDF, word processed file, etc).

For the latter I think we have more than sufficient tools out there ... we just need to consider the correct format (sorry to dip into an open formats discussion but ti is relevant when you pay not know what a student uses at home).

For the former there are a range of tools, fromteh basic packaging tool of Learning Essentials (a variation of HunterStone Thesis Lite) through to the Full HunterStone Thesis Pro ... There is an SLK wrapper for the old class server client for if you are creating objects for Sharepoint, Lodestar, eXe ...

As with all tools ... the simpler they are to operate and create content the simpler the content will be ... as you go to the complex tools you can make very powerful objects ... but the cost in licences, training and time to create each object increases.

http://www.adlnet.gov may have more information for you on SCORM that you might find interesting.

Click to view KevM's profile Level 1 7 posts since
16-Jul-2008

The biggest criteria isn't what tools but "ease of use". In my experience if a program is complated 90% of the users will not bother to learn the program. The main reason is time. Microsoft learning has a free "Learning Content Development System" which will save files in different formats. However, it is not the best program out there. Another one is the One Note program again by Microsoft, which is fairly easy to use.

Usually the easiet ones to learn are the ones that come with the VLE, and teachers can see the relevance in use it. But with the number of Websites apppear that are sharing / swaping VLE resources, is getting to the point where by most teachers will download the ready made resouces with little or no modifaction nessaccy ? The thing is most proprietary tools only save the "programs" in there own format.

SCORM is OK as a "target" but with the use of Powerpoint being the tool of choice by a lot of teachers and the proprietary programs come up in the wings. The only way to make these truely swappable is to save them as web pages.


Click to view Pilgram's profile Level 2 28 posts since
06-Feb-2008

Hi

Powerpoint the tool of choice? Most of my primary colleagues use SmartNotes or one of the other alternatives for lessons on their IWB. Certainly Smartnotes can be uploaded as a pdf which is a good alternative as it can be read by a very wide variety of machines, including handheld devices. It's quite good having the Smartnotes on the screen with some following that and others following the pdf of same on their handheld devices.

Pilgram

Click to view TonySheppard's profile Level 1 15 posts since
06-Feb-2008
Powerpoint is actually a good example of people taking an application and using it for something that most would not have considered.

I have mentioned about pathways, and there have been some fine examples of powerpoint being used in this manner.

Let us go back to the days of Andrew Jackson and Ian Livingstone and those wonderful(?) books where you chose the story. Each option you made took you to a new page, it helped define how you worked and the hours spent working out the right way to do things was fantastic. Take that now to a powerpoint presentation where each slide takes you to different slides (action buttons folks) depending on your response to answers. It is even possible to have a log of what you have done generated into a text file (VB for Applications is nice like this) and from this you could even generate scores. Most people would be able to eventually do this because they are used to Powerpoint as an application anyway, so it is not too hard a jump for them (ok ... you may have to leave out the VBA stuff for recording the 'scores') but it is quite easy to pick up.

From here it is a logical step to go for a tool that takes this object, makes it 'compliant' so that it can be used in a learning environment, records the scores automatically and then pulls those marks back into the teacher's gradebook.

On its own powerpoint will not do this, but the same concepts behind how this sort of object would work are inherent in SCORM authoring tools. If you are getting staff used to the concepts then you might want to start in Powerpoint (other presentation software that can also do this is available) and then work on to the next level of tool.

Flat / non-interactive resources such as pictures, videos, word processed documents, presentations, etc can and will be created in a variety of tools. They just get uploaded by the teacher and pulled down by the student. Assigning of these as work is simply a matter of "use file x as stimulus / read document y / watch video z and answer questions to be handed to teacher".

I have to admit that one aspect of IWBs and learning platforms that gets missed is the use of it as an annotation tool. How wonderful is it to have a poem or other piece of work that is being analysed and annotated by the students ... and then have all these comments that have been written over the top of the poem and then saved and uploaded as an addition to the usual class notes. Each time you do it is likely to be slightly different.
Click to view Pilgram's profile Level 2 28 posts since
06-Feb-2008

Hi

Ah, Choose Your Own Adventure Stories. But Powerpoint as the ideal tool?

If you are using a Learning Platform, surely the platform itself is the ideal tool. You can create pages, add content on the platform itself. Even better, you can have multiple editors and multiple access. I'm not Powerpoint afficinado, but I don't think that you can have two, or even ten, and especially not 30 concurrent users. By writing your CYOA story on the platform, then you can have a large number of editors.

An example:

http://www.school-portal.co.uk/GroupHomepage.asp?GroupID=197665

What is this conversation really about? Is it about the best tools to use, or is it about how we use a learning platform. Do we use it to deliver content, or to enable learners to create content? Perhaps this is a primary / secondary divide? Or is it pedagogical? I don't know and it's been the last day of term, so I'll let someone else think about it, one of those bottles of red wine that I was kindly given beckons!

Pilgram

Click to view KevM's profile Level 1 7 posts since
16-Jul-2008

The two site we use are TES Conect (www.tes.co.uk) and SchoolZone (www.schoolzone.co.uk). Both require registration, but it is free. If you go to www.teachernet.gov.uk / Teaching and Resources they have lists of other sites to use to get and swap classroom resources. As a lot of these resources are written by teachers, they are "better" than some of the stuff written by VLE programmers.

Kevin

Click to view terryk's profile Level 2 14 posts since
06-Jul-2008

A lot of this discussion overlaps with what we are doing for Becta on use of Digital Learnng Resources. It is on the Digital Learning Resources thread which is part of the Personalised Learning Forum. I have just posted our first report, which basically says that there are huge gaps in what we know about what actually goes on in classrooms and what teachers, and probably learners too, want and need.

I know this thread is about tools used to create materials, but one of the arguments is that teachers would not have to spend so much time learning how to create material if the right things were available in the first place. Thoughts on the DLR discussion forum are welcome. We are also running a nuber of workshops in CLCs around the country to hear teachers views and ideas fist hand. Anyone who would like to attend one can either put someting on the discussion, or email me at t.keefe@shu.ac.uk.

Terry Keefe

Click to view AliMesser's profile Level 1 1 posts since
02-Oct-2008

I will have a look at the DLR discussions, but a quick comment based on work with PGCE students aka trainees aka BTs. Within a year they move from their first school (first placement) to their third school (first post) via second placement, and any materials created in anything other than office type software often has to be abandoned. The other issue is that their best materials created in office type products act as templates for their peers in other settings and can morph in terms of purpose on the way. Once they get the idea that they can collaborate easily between schools.

They also may have permission issues using learning platform software itself. It is often easier for them to use web based voting and survey systems, or wiki, for example, for this reason.

Does this matter? I think it might, as the best younger teachers are likely to be amongst those most likely to be living socially Web 2.0 style, and maybe open to developing e learning in a creative manner. SO... encouraging the use of non LP specific software on learning platforms may make it easier for newer teachers to innovate.

Does that make sense? Hope its relevant!

Ali

Click to view mikeslvcf's profile Level 1 7 posts since
16-Oct-2008
Hi

On the subject of which tools I think this is quite a broad question. If as has been suggested previously you are looking at a leaning objects model then there are questions about using software that enables resources to be picked up in open formats eg pdf rtf etc. However in Primary there is a plethora of software that allows resource creation but a problem of common formats. A classic example might be a resource made in Text-ease. Not all would be able to use it. Does that make it a less useful resource? I think that if we are going to encourage teachers to use VLEs and other collaborative forums we must allow spaces where they can share anything. The user always has tho option to look for demo versions of software to enable then to look at stuff. After all the priority is getting them to share.


Another barrel to overcome her is the attitude that "if Ishare my stuff someone else may take credit." That risk is never going to go away but I have found that holding on to things you make doesn't actually benefit you. what perhaps is needed is a professional ethos that recognises the contribution others make to our teaching. If we can model this to pupils then we will see genuine "resource building" take off.


Finally I would agree with those who point to software such as Notebook and Mediator as good media for learning objects but the more technical ability required the less it will be a common practice to use these media.

Click to view terryk's profile Level 2 14 posts since
06-Jul-2008

Interestingly, as we have gone around the country speaking to teachers, the debate has never really gone beyond the "what resources should I use" question. For most teachers the first steps to creating content have to be the simple ones i.e. use what you know which is usually something from MS Office. This reflects what happens in industry according to Adobe. They say over half the e-learning materials used in business are built using Word/PowerPoint/Excel/Movie Maker or similar. It is only when users are sufficiently confident to spot the limitaions of these that they will look for better tools.

I have also been involved in the standards/learning object debate for several years and to be frank I feel it is an unnecessary distraction for most teachers. In my experience teachers naturally think in terms of learning objects, all they lack is the terminology and the templates. These can follow once we have achieved the step change of using the technology as an integral part of teaching and learning, as many do now. Importantly, we found teachers think in terms of the whole learning activity, not just the digital bit, which after all is just a support mechanism. In many ways it is the technology which has to catch up with the teachers and learners, not the other way round.

Sorry for the speech, I hope some of it made sense.


Click to view garyclawson's profile Level 2 36 posts since
02-Jun-2008

I think that the replies show that we really don't have the consistency of position across our schools that actually enable us to ask the question. We have teachers who are nowhere near the act of creating materials; many who create them with no idea of 'standards' and even if there was an easy way to share them, wouldn't be advised to do so as their knowledge of IPR is just not there; Then there are those who can create resources but are not motivated to share and even if they were is requires time and effort to share them. Finally we have now put up many barriers to sharing by building walls called 'licenced VLEs' where resources sit in Learning Platforms that can only facilitate sharing if they have the same provider.

This is not an impoosible situation, if you make the ability to share resources easy, if you provide teachers with recognition of this act and if you provide a set of resources that can be developed further then you get to a situation where it will be evolved and grown by a community of educators who can see value, then you will have considerable progress.

As for what tools to create materials, well these would improve once they have a shared library of resources to use and to add to. Then maybe we will go beyond a collection of pdfs and powerpoints?

Click to view bicted's profile Level 1 1 posts since
04-Jul-2008

Asking the question is fine, but please don't put a straight jacket on to teachers by trying to impose the tools we use to create materials to use with our pupils - many of us (especially in Primary schools :) !) already "go beyond a collection of pdfs and powerpoints." There are some superb educational products that are much better than office ones for these purposes IMHO.